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Post by Rul on Sept 3, 2006 2:29:50 GMT -5
A lot people know who Link is... but not his name, lol. It's like that with Cloud.
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 3, 2006 4:15:45 GMT -5
Sadly no. I jokingly said once I'd call my child Cloud, one person was like OMG, one looked at me as if I was crazy and another (my very weird mate who likes FFVII) quoted that poem, "I wandered lonely as a Cloud..."
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Post by hypes on Sept 3, 2006 9:37:22 GMT -5
... I think naming your child, your genetic inheritence, the only thing that proves you ever existed in this world (on a genetic level) after a fictional character (especially Cloud o.O ) is a bit much... I'd look atcho wierd too Boy, that kids gonna be picked on...
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 3, 2006 11:16:04 GMT -5
I was only joking I wouldn't really... Well maybe Isaac (GS) because I like the name
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Post by hypes on Sept 3, 2006 18:37:31 GMT -5
Anyhow, hey, I just thought of something. You know how in memoria they're all like memories of stuff, and the FF1 bosses keep popping up cus we're all remembering ff1? Well, think of other lines. We fight Kraken in the water, because apparently somewhere in our memories we have a natural, genetic memory of the ocean. Though I never really doubted it, I think that this is kind of like a subtle hint of evolutionary history on Gaia. Life started in the sea, as it should. I knw the Japanese have a strong connection with the sea, but biologicly speaking, all the chemicals needed for life are in the ocean, it was just a matter of mixing it up. Religion on Gaia is never really explored, but neither is their past. The soul cycle has prolly been going on for billions of years (if its the same thing as the life stream, where life enrgy is transferable between all manners of life and not just humans). That could be reasons for life going on past mass extinctions and such, cus the soul cycle kept swapping stuff in and out. But does that mean that life can never really stop on Gaia? No was there really anything Kuja could do to stop it? And if Garland could tranfer souls from one world to another, is it possible that all the creatures on Gaia, and possibly others, are really aliens that came thousands, millions, or billions of years ago?
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 4, 2006 1:51:43 GMT -5
I think the reasons it was explored in more depth may be because children play it >.< To the average gamer it would get confusing. Woody gets confused with the JENOVA and reunion related stuff in FFVII >.<
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Post by hypes on Sept 4, 2006 11:52:38 GMT -5
Well the games are rated T, and even though most of them are kinda the same thing, "rebels versus evil regime!" they do offer some speculative insight into the condition of man and porovoke some questions into existance.
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 4, 2006 14:03:21 GMT -5
Yeah but most games do on some level. Even games with a seeminlgy simple concept like...Spyro or Tekken, will be making some kind of philosophical, psychological or social critique
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Post by Kitty Masaki on Sept 5, 2006 22:06:09 GMT -5
To quote Link "Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!" lol That brings up bad memories... @_@ Well... link tights or no tights... as long as PL looks hot in the new costume Im fine with it X3
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Post by Kitty Masaki on Sept 5, 2006 22:16:01 GMT -5
Anyhow, hey, I just thought of something. You know how in memoria they're all like memories of stuff, and the FF1 bosses keep popping up cus we're all remembering ff1? Well, think of other lines. We fight Kraken in the water, because apparently somewhere in our memories we have a natural, genetic memory of the ocean. Though I never really doubted it, I think that this is kind of like a subtle hint of evolutionary history on Gaia. Life started in the sea, as it should. I knw the Japanese have a strong connection with the sea, but biologicly speaking, all the chemicals needed for life are in the ocean, it was just a matter of mixing it up. Religion on Gaia is never really explored, but neither is their past. The soul cycle has prolly been going on for billions of years (if its the same thing as the life stream, where life enrgy is transferable between all manners of life and not just humans). That could be reasons for life going on past mass extinctions and such, cus the soul cycle kept swapping stuff in and out. But does that mean that life can never really stop on Gaia? No was there really anything Kuja could do to stop it? And if Garland could tranfer souls from one world to another, is it possible that all the creatures on Gaia, and possibly others, are really aliens that came thousands, millions, or billions of years ago? I didn't want to quote the whole thing, but I needed to have it close to look at so I wouldn't forget what I was responding to.. What I truely believe is that you can find a 'lifestream' in every FF game and they should all have the same purpose, where your cycling the souls and yes it would be for all manners of life. (in my opinion) There was something Kuja could do about it, and that was the Iifa tree.... the main thing you really have to look into when talking about the souls and stuff is all about that big tree that was filtering gaia's souls blah blah.. my memory is not good at night. Mmm maybe... I mean it makes sense... but at the same time wouldn't the souls be recycled back to gaian life? So... sure alien things could have came there... but I nono.... their souls may have now been on gaia, but they'd be taking on the forms of gaian life... yeah... Ooo Ooo and what about the crystal? I mean.... it pretty much came at the dead end of the game... yet it was supposed to be like the main... um goal? How so? Was it cause the crystal like was what gave life to the planet and... yeah...
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 6, 2006 3:27:15 GMT -5
To quote Link "Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!" lol What is that from? I wanna hear Link say that
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Post by hypes on Sept 6, 2006 16:23:26 GMT -5
The excuuuuuse me is from the old Link animated series. It was horribly bad but horribly good. Hmmm, makes sense. When I said they might only come back as humans, I was refering to the religion of Hindu (which the FFs are strongly influenced by), where once your dead, your soul is revived in another human somewhere on the caste system. In Buddhism, its not just humans but animals too, so if your bad, you''l end up a worm instead of just a begger. It would make sense for Gaia, if its an entity (whish a lot of FF's put emphasis on) to filter the lifeforms on its surface as creatures that exist only on Gaia. But then, what decides how you become what you are? And wouldnt it suck if Gariland came back as an Oglop? Also, wouldnt everytime something died, soemthing else would have to be born? Or is there a queqe that they sit in? Questions.
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 7, 2006 5:21:42 GMT -5
You can come back as a rock as well >.<
Well yeah a few of the names on FFIX come from Sanskrit which most Hindu teachings are written in e.g. 'Kuja' is a Hindu God but it can also be Sanskrit for demon or crimson (trance hair colour I guess...) And will be influenced by Buddhism (it's one of the religions of Japan after all) The whole souls being transferred to another body thing is reminscient of the Genomes.
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Post by Kitty Masaki on Sept 7, 2006 22:22:27 GMT -5
Thus 9 is ultimate the sexiest game ever.
(lol random)
I never knew that Hindu had influenced 9 nor Buddhism. Then again... I know little to nothing about either religions.
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 8, 2006 2:03:11 GMT -5
I do Religious Studies, I get stuff like that rammed into my head everyday >.< The Kuja thing I found on the internet lol.
Random Moment: I did a fanfic once about Kuja's son. I called him Jiva which is Sanskrit for soul. I like to keep accurate (ish) to the FF world ^_^
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Post by Rul on Sept 9, 2006 17:42:02 GMT -5
Yes, kitty, all these reason make FF9 the sexiest game ever :3 I didn't know that kuja was the name of a Hindu god.... It makes the whole sotry tie in even more. Those senators who think videogames ruin children's mind obviously have not played FFIX.
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 10, 2006 3:42:16 GMT -5
Yup, or any of the other FFs for that matter >.< It's only the violent ones that do
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Post by hypes on Sept 10, 2006 21:28:39 GMT -5
Those senators who think videogames ruin children's mind obviously have not played FFIX. Viva la games! Not all video games have to be censored to little kidsness! Also, its been many a year since I played 9, but the other FF's do have their adult moments (and not the philosophical kind), like the Honeybee Inn in 7. But aduly humor and situations only add to it and make it a more credible world!
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Post by Mia the Rabbit on Sept 11, 2006 2:00:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I was watching Woody play that bit last night, ROFL, LMAO and LOL (hehe)
If they remake FFVII they'd probably tone that down to make it more marketable, that'd just be so wrong!
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Post by Rul on Sept 21, 2006 0:16:59 GMT -5
Well.. I was 10 when i first played FFVII... it's wasn't that bad. But then again there was a stip club on one of the main streets of my city.... that's just disgusting ><
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